Comments for David L Rattigan http://davidlrattigan.com Website of Liverpool-based freelance writer, copywriter, editor and creative David L Rattigan Thu, 17 May 2012 21:32:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards by Links round-up for International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia | Edinburgh Eye http://davidlrattigan.com/archbishop-cranmer-versus-advertising-standards/#comment-116 Links round-up for International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia | Edinburgh Eye Thu, 17 May 2012 21:32:40 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=259#comment-116 [...] ongoing story of Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards Authority. This is turning out quite fun. *popcorn* In the real world: the Advertising Standards Authority [...] [...] ongoing story of Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards Authority. This is turning out quite fun. *popcorn* In the real world: the Advertising Standards Authority [...]

]]> Comment on Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards by Mat Morrisroe http://davidlrattigan.com/archbishop-cranmer-versus-advertising-standards/#comment-115 Mat Morrisroe Thu, 17 May 2012 20:32:44 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=259#comment-115 Fabulous blog. However, whilst I think the ASA may not have handled this expertly, advertising is not covered by free speech. Catholic Voices, people who speak about themselves in the 3rd person and Terry Homophobe of the Homophobe League can say what they like within the law. However, they may not take out adverts. Seeing half the ads we have it's surprising to think that there are codes and standards, but imagine what kind of claims and attacks would be made without them. If whoever this person is was truly being persecuted, he wouldn't be able to run such a regularly offensive blog. However, he can, because he isn't. It's very simple, if he wants to avoid the ASA he can simply stop having advertising on his blog. Of course, the irony isn't lost that he's complaining about being persecuted for having to abide by a set of rules whilst actively seeking to persecute others by imposing his rules on them. Awful. Fabulous blog. However, whilst I think the ASA may not have handled this expertly, advertising is not covered by free speech. Catholic Voices, people who speak about themselves in the 3rd person and Terry Homophobe of the Homophobe League can say what they like within the law. However, they may not take out adverts. Seeing half the ads we have it’s surprising to think that there are codes and standards, but imagine what kind of claims and attacks would be made without them.

If whoever this person is was truly being persecuted, he wouldn’t be able to run such a regularly offensive blog. However, he can, because he isn’t. It’s very simple, if he wants to avoid the ASA he can simply stop having advertising on his blog.

Of course, the irony isn’t lost that he’s complaining about being persecuted for having to abide by a set of rules whilst actively seeking to persecute others by imposing his rules on them. Awful.

]]> Comment on Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards by David L Rattigan http://davidlrattigan.com/archbishop-cranmer-versus-advertising-standards/#comment-113 David L Rattigan Thu, 17 May 2012 17:00:51 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=259#comment-113 I could say a lot about how Cranmer and his supporters have handled the issue of whether the ad is homophobic. Basically, the line I've heard from the Archbishop and others is "The ad doesn't even mention homosexuality, so how could it be homophobic?" It's a blatant fallacy to say that just because Y does not mention X, Y says nothing about X. A case in point: Does <a href="http://www.nouse.co.uk/wp-content/article_images/body/2009/06/advert.png" rel="nofollow">this ad</a> say anything about race? (That's not to say the ad is homophobic. It just means you can't use the absence of an explicit mention of homosexuality to argue the ad said nothing on the subject. Context is everything.) I could say a lot about how Cranmer and his supporters have handled the issue of whether the ad is homophobic. Basically, the line I’ve heard from the Archbishop and others is “The ad doesn’t even mention homosexuality, so how could it be homophobic?” It’s a blatant fallacy to say that just because Y does not mention X, Y says nothing about X. A case in point: Does this ad say anything about race?

(That’s not to say the ad is homophobic. It just means you can’t use the absence of an explicit mention of homosexuality to argue the ad said nothing on the subject. Context is everything.)

]]> Comment on Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards by Phil Groom http://davidlrattigan.com/archbishop-cranmer-versus-advertising-standards/#comment-112 Phil Groom Thu, 17 May 2012 16:43:47 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=259#comment-112 As for ad itself: it isn't homophobic; but it's motivated by homophobia, like the C4M campaign itself, people running scared of the supposed consequences of the legislation. Until the people running the campaign are willing to face up to that fear and acknowledge it for what it is, I fear that we on the C4EM side of things are simply banging our heads against a brick wall... As for ad itself: it isn’t homophobic; but it’s motivated by homophobia, like the C4M campaign itself, people running scared of the supposed consequences of the legislation. Until the people running the campaign are willing to face up to that fear and acknowledge it for what it is, I fear that we on the C4EM side of things are simply banging our heads against a brick wall…

]]> Comment on Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards by Phil Groom http://davidlrattigan.com/archbishop-cranmer-versus-advertising-standards/#comment-111 Phil Groom Thu, 17 May 2012 16:30:30 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=259#comment-111 Well over at Cranmer's place I said ASA=assholes; but if I'm to be fair, I think I must now say the same of Cranmer, only to maintain the alliteration I'll say, Cranmer=crasshole. Hey ho... Well over at Cranmer’s place I said ASA=assholes; but if I’m to be fair, I think I must now say the same of Cranmer, only to maintain the alliteration I’ll say, Cranmer=crasshole. Hey ho…

]]> Comment on ASA Persecuting ‘His Grace’ over Marriage Ad? by Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards | David L Rattigan http://davidlrattigan.com/asa-persecuting-his-grace-over-marriage-ad/#comment-109 Archbishop Cranmer versus Advertising Standards | David L Rattigan Thu, 17 May 2012 14:29:15 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=238#comment-109 [...] was immediately quite irked by what seemed to me to be an attempt to silence an ad that, in the scheme of things, is no big [...] [...] was immediately quite irked by what seemed to me to be an attempt to silence an ad that, in the scheme of things, is no big [...]

]]> Comment on ASA Persecuting ‘His Grace’ over Marriage Ad? by Persecution? Prove it. | Edinburgh Eye http://davidlrattigan.com/asa-persecuting-his-grace-over-marriage-ad/#comment-106 Persecution? Prove it. | Edinburgh Eye Sat, 12 May 2012 23:07:47 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=238#comment-106 [...] confusedly, David Rattigan defends Archbishop Cranmer’s feelings of persecution with: When is this constant drive at censoring one’s political and religious opponents going to end? [...] [...] confusedly, David Rattigan defends Archbishop Cranmer’s feelings of persecution with: When is this constant drive at censoring one’s political and religious opponents going to end? [...]

]]> Comment on Anglican Mainstream, Core Issues, Homosexuality & Homophobia by Emily K http://davidlrattigan.com/anglican-mainstream-core-issues-homosexuality-homophobia/#comment-71 Emily K Sun, 15 Apr 2012 16:58:05 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=202#comment-71 Hey Peter ould: "post gay" does not mean what you've been trying to make it mean for the past several years. GET OVER IT. P.S.: we can all tell you only use that term because you can't say in good conscience you've lost your same sex attractions. Hey Peter ould: “post gay” does not mean what you’ve been trying to make it mean for the past several years. GET OVER IT.

P.S.: we can all tell you only use that term because you can’t say in good conscience you’ve lost your same sex attractions.

]]> Comment on The Meaning of Easter by Pluralist http://davidlrattigan.com/the-meaning-of-easter/#comment-64 Pluralist Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:21:01 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=199#comment-64 Yes, it is meaningful, but only secondarily meaningful on the basis that it reflects upon the existing life. The dependent-on body rots and no more happens, that way, so it just becomes a reflective story at some remove. Yes, it is meaningful, but only secondarily meaningful on the basis that it reflects upon the existing life. The dependent-on body rots and no more happens, that way, so it just becomes a reflective story at some remove.

]]> Comment on When to Use the Passive Voice by On Passive-Aggressive Wikipedia Edits | David L Rattigan http://davidlrattigan.com/when-to-use-the-passive-voice/#comment-60 On Passive-Aggressive Wikipedia Edits | David L Rattigan Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:06:18 +0000 http://davidlrattigan.com/?p=150#comment-60 [...] while the passive is frequently a poor choice, it is often a fine or even the better choice. As I summarized recently: A good writer uses her ear rather than relying on grammatical prescriptions often invented with [...] [...] while the passive is frequently a poor choice, it is often a fine or even the better choice. As I summarized recently: A good writer uses her ear rather than relying on grammatical prescriptions often invented with [...]

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